I spoke with Cliff Arnebeck regarding his strange letter to Obama and Biden about assassinations.. And looked over my shoulder the rest of the night..
When I called Cliff Arnebeck for an interview last night, I didn’t expect him to answer. And when he did, I felt a little off-guard and half expected him to hang up on me. It turns out, quite the opposite was true — Arnebeck is an intelligent, matter-of-fact man who was happy to answer my questions regarding the letter he posted on his Facebook page and the election fraud lawsuit he had pending. If it wasn’t for the fact that I had already promised my girlfriend to take her out for her birthday, and that he was preparing for a family vacation and finishing up business with his clients, I have a feeling we would have been on the phone the rest of the night discussing the deep, dark secrets of what he calls the “global cabal” that has taken over the U.S. government, and who will stop at nothing to make sure they retain control over the country and the world — even assassinating the vice president’s son.
If this sounds insane, you may want to stop reading and go back to your Pokemon Go, because it doesn’t get any prettier. Considering the Trans-Pacific Partnership does exactly what conspiracy theorists have been afraid of for years (making it so that bankers rule over all the world’s governments, shifting all the power into the greedy hands of a few), and considering the vast number of witnesses to political corruption who have died while awaiting court appearances or interviews, even a few who were supposed to testify for Arnebeck on his election fraud cases, it’s almost more of a stretch to think that there aren’t secret operatives working on behalf of a few corrupt people. Cliff Arnebeck seems to agree with me, and that’s why he’s been so adamant about fighting election fraud.
Ohio is the swing state of carnage. It literally is the sole state that can decide an election for a number of reasons, but if you ask Cliff, it’s because it’s so easy to manipulate the voting machines there. The good news is that his lawsuit, he says, is going to put an end to the corruption and stop the Democratic party dead in its tracks. But before we get to all of that, let’s talk about election fraud.
Anyone who doesn’t think the Democratic primaries were rigged needs to wake up. After all, elections have been getting rigged since before any of us were swimming around in utero. In fact, ancient Greece, where democracy was born, was just as susceptible to political corruption as we are today. Rome even had laws referred to as Ambitus which strictly prohibited election rigging and bribery. That means election rigging is as old as democracy itself, and it’s arguable that you simply cannot have an election without attempts at rigging the outcome. But that’s why we have laws, to promote accountability and to get a result that is as close to what the population wants as possible. Now, if only we could enforce those laws, we might be able to have an honest person in the White House. This year, we have someone who represents the majority of the American people but the election has been stolen from him, and he may even have been physically beaten into submission. The grave implications of going up against the powers that be are literally being on the wrong end of the barrel of a gun, and sometimes you need to make those hard choices in order to protect the ones you love. I believe Bernie Sanders was put in that position, and it’s a sad day for democracy to have seen it unfold before us.
But all hope is not lost.
Like many Bernie Sanders supporters, I have trouble accepting the outcome of the 2016 Democratic Presidential Primary. Sanders clearly was the better candidate in a number of ways: he clearly had more people at his rallies than Clinton; he is a true progressive and has been his whole life (and that’s provable), while Clinton flip flops on every progressive issue and ends up being a middle-of-the-road candidate; Bernie stood for the people, Hillary for the corporations; Bernie wants integrity and to save the planet, Hillary wants money and to save her ass from going to jail. So when he said it would be a contested convention, only to end up endorsing Clinton two weeks prior to the convention, something really seemed off. It wasn’t until I noticed a mark on his cheek that I realized all the stuff of TV shows like The Black List, Scandal, and House of Cards might not be that far off from reality.
I’ve been reading about, scoffing at, pondering and cross-referencing conspiracy theories for years. And I’ve been voting Democratic my entire adult life. But I’ve never seen so much blatant disregard for democracy as I’ve seen this year. I’m 36 years old, and I’d like to think I’m not as stupid as the DNC and the establishment think I am. But am I falling for conspiracy theory drivel or was there truly election fraud going on? Well, when it’s gotten so bad that even the Democratic National Committee had to come out and apologize to Sanders, their own candidate, for going out of their way to undermine his campaign in favor of Hillary Clinton, and when I saw that multiple lawsuits were being filed claiming election fraud, naturally I was curious as to the details of the cases being made. Were they legitimate? What evidence do we have? Would the cases be taken seriously or swept under the rug by power players holding political offices?
Luckily we have some internet-only media outlets like The Young Turks and Lee Camp’s Redacted Tonight that are actually reporting on such matters, as I for one can no longer trust mainstream media such as CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, FOX News, the Washington Post and Politico to cover elections fairly, accurately and in depth without any sort of bias and without whitewashing the obvious rigging of elections.
It was on Redacted Tonight that I first recognized Cliff Arnebeck, one of the few lawyers in the U.S. willing to litigate against the establishment on grounds of election fraud, and since then I’ve been interested in who he was and what he’s had to say. Then I saw his letter to the president and vice president of the U.S. and thought, “Now I really HAVE to talk to this guy,” so I gave him a call.
Arnebeck, a Harvard educated lawyer holding a J.D., hails from Columbus, Ohio and has a penchant for change with a serious chip on his shoulder about election fraud that goes as far back as the mid-1990s, and he’s working on a lawsuit that he undoubtedly feels will bring the masterminds behind the rigging to justice. There’s just one problem: his assertions that people are being assassinated by operatives of Karl Rove are….a bit more than far-fetched for quite a few Berners. It’s also scary as hell. If what he’s saying is true, it means that even I would somehow be connected to all of this just for writing it. Needless to say, when I got of the phone with him and met up with my girlfriend for dinner, I found myself wondering who the guy was at the end of the bar, asking my girlfriend if she’d ever seen him, and wondering if I should be wearing gloves when I ride my bike (that’ll make more sense when you read the interview below).
Anyhow, as Arnebeck told me on the phone, it really doesn’t matter if anyone believes in the assassinations. He only has to prove the rigging of the election, and all will come crumbling down with it. After that, it’s up to the American people to figure out how to proceed with the general election, and that is most likely going to be with Bernie leading the Democrats against a buffoon who’s already talking about leaving the race.
Below is a transcript of our conversation. I’ve inserted citations in the form of links to any relevant background information I could find.
The first question I had was about the letter you posted to your Facebook account which many are saying contains some outrageous claims. So, first of all, is that your facebook account and are you indeed the person who posted that letter?
Yes I am, Yes I am.
Ok, could you shed some light on who this person Beverly Campbell is?
Well there are newspaper stories from whenever she was practicing law as a prosecutor in Philadelphia. She handled some high-profile cases. And then there are news articles in regards to both the senate and the house in Ohio. In the 2006 election, she actually won the election but we have rigged elections here in Ohio, where they flipped her votes, so she didn’t officially win but she did in fact win. But there was a lot of advertising in that race both for her and for her opponent who was an incumbent Republican, she was running as a Democrat. In terms of her obituary, she had two divorces and the father of one of her sons, they weren’t very interested in letting them know right away that she had passed, so there’s an obituary that was put out by the mortuary but not a full obituary in the main paper.
Where did you end up coming to the conclusion that she was assassinated by Karl Rove’s operatives?
Well, Karl Rove has been stealing presidential elections since 2000, and I had noticed a racketeering claim against him and Tom Donahue at the Chamber of Commerce, who was his partner in this activity in 2008, and there was an immediate tip that Karl Rove had threatened a key witness that I had identified, Mike Connell, and then Mike Connell was assassinated on December 19th (which was about six weeks after I took his deposition) where he had been instructed to take the fall for the theft of the 2004 election in Ohio, and he had been set up to take the fall by the documents, and when I took his deposition he did *not* take the fall. And that’s why he was assassinated. Beverly Campbell, I had represented her since 2006 as a lawyer in election litigation. She was dating this guy who was high-level CIA since at least 2008 and he was giving her all kinds of information, I mean, they were intimate and he was feeding her all kinds of information including the fact that he was killing people and he was torturing people, and he was very candid in the things he was telling her. He was also telling her, “If you share this information, I’ll kill you and also your two sons.” So, she, being scared for her life, told me this information and told me the password to access her information in case something were to happen to her. So, this year, we had had a meeting on January 15th, and I have reason to believe our meetings, as best they could, they were monitoring them — our meetings, generally, we would try to be in a place where they couldn’t monitor them — anyway, the subject was getting information to Joe Biden, for whom she had worked on his campaign, and he had endorsed her two runs for the State House here in Ohio, so they were friends. We were both friends with his top political person, a guy named Greg Schultz. So that was the conversation, and after she had died suddenly — and she was in good health — her doctors expressed amazement that she died, ya know, high blood pressure, hypertension, it was too… too, uh…
Too much of an anomaly?
It was too pat, ya know, she’s sitting in a chair with the blood pressure thing around her arm with a number of high readings. The autopsy doesn’t show anything, and of course there are techniques for killing people that will not show up in an autopsy. So, as we’re going along in this election of 2016 Democratic Primary, I’m getting all these reports of wild, absolutely wild, off-the-charts fraud. So then I’m corresponding with Karl Rove’s attorney, with whom I had issued a subpoena to against Karl Rove back in 2010, so I know the guy and I’m saying, ya know, “Tell Karl I have irrefutable evidence that Karl is applying his considerable talents the rigging of these elections, so please instruct your client not to do this in Ohio.” So then Ohio comes and there’s a 10-point variance between what the exit-polls say was the vote and what the recorded vote is, so it was rigged big time in Ohio. So as I’m continuing to work on this, I have other inside witnesses who are telling me there’s a new technology developed by Mikey Cunnyngham, who’s the traditional guy used by Rove for rigging elections, and he had developed this new technology to use in this primary for the first time. I had come to the conclusion that [Campbell] was assassinated, so I was trying to get the information to Joe Biden and the President before they give their speeches on Wednesday at the convention.
You must be feeling that you’re at risk yourself at this point. Do you feel that this was a bold move to post this online for the public to see? Have you been feeling at risk or have you witnessed anything happening to you personally?
I’ve had clients assassinated, my lead plaintiff in our challenge to the 2004 election, before we asked the Supreme Court was assassinated. The woman Stephanie Tubbs Jones, who we asked to make the challenge on the floor of the Congress, she was assassinated.
How was she assassinated?
She was just driving along, she was in perfectly good health, ya know, an incredible person in all respects, former U.S. Attorney, former judge and U.S. Congresswoman, the top congresswoman in Cleveland, and she was just driving her car and had some sort of aneurysm or something and dies. Ya know, in Detroit, in the days of organized crime activity, there was something that they just put on the steering wheel that would cause a heart attack or a sudden illness, and it was so extensively used that people wouldn’t touch their steering wheels without gloves on. There are techniques for assassination that have been very well-developed which obviously are in play here. Bev Campbell was telling me the techniques of torture and assassination that her high-level CIA guy was telling her about and my client who had formerly worked for Karl Rove was telling me about this stuff and she goes back a long way.. Assassinations are something that we have done that either our rogue CIA or real CIA frequently do. So I formed the opinion, and by expressing the opinion, under oath, in contemplation of the fact that I have been threatened, what I’m doing is protecting myself because if they kill me some other lawyer can take my statement and use it as evidence in a case. So, that’s the reason to making it public is to protect myself. So do I feel threatened? I know I’ve been threatened, but I believe I’m taking reasonable steps to protect myself, and the main one is to get the information out so that it would survive my death, which takes away the incentive to kill me.
What many people would have trouble with is these methods of assassination. When it comes to Joe Biden’s son, the official story is that he died of brain cancer. How do you fake brain cancer? With the number of people that would be involved in faking that..
You have to realize that there is a science to assassinations, there’s a science to torture as well, and it’s been going on for years and years and years, and after World War II, the Nazis developed this stuff and we continued to develop it, in terms of diseases, in terms of biological agents, and there’s all sorts of techniques to induce heart attacks, brain aneurysms, cancer, it’s all within their bag of tricks. They have technology that has been developed that can disrupt your mind, play with your brain **PHONE DISTORTS AND CUTS OUT HERE, THEN BACK IN** ya know, Bev believed that Joe Biden’s son had been assassinated and she believed that Biden suspected it also. Bev saw me as someone that she trusts and that’s why I shared it. The other thing I shared with Obama, this guy boasting that they had intimidated Obama by showing him the Zapruder film. I dunno if you’ve seen the film, but there’s fire, an explosion in his throat and his brains are blown out the back of his head. And his wife is witnessing this. It’s the combination of not just watching it himself but his wife and kids and the trauma of his head being blown off. And this same technique was used with a guy named Robert Vance, who was on the 11th circuit court of appeals, where they delivered a package to his home before Christmas in 1989 and the package looks like it’s sent by one of his colleagues on the bench. So he takes the package from the front door, and opens the package in the kitchen with this wife, and his head is blown off with his wife watching. So these are two major assassinations that have taken place.
I don’t know if you’ve read the book, James Douglass’ JFK and The Unspeakable and it’s irrefutable the case that he makes where exactly how that assassination takes place, all the dynamics of it in terms of Allen Dulles being the guiding hand and so forth, and then in this assassination of Robert Vance, I have an investigator who investigated that and he knows who did it, who planned it, who orchestrated it, and how it was covered up with a patsy, a guy name Walter Moody is used as a fall guy. Every member of the federal judiciary knew that that was an organized conspiracy because letters were being sent to all the courts in the country threatening them. It was designated as a political assassination conspiracy by the FBI at the time. It was not prosecuted as such but it was known as that. These are facts and they were covered up. What is the effect of covering these things up? The assassins go on to do other things. They have lots of money, they continue to be employed in criminal activity and we have a corrupt process. One of the things that struck me about the 2004 presidential election, and the rigging of that, was that the guy that the high-level CIA person had communicated to us who wrote the software for the rigging of that election was a guy named Buck Rivel who had been part of the cover up of the JFK assassination, he has a security firm now. So the consequence of failing to investigate and prosecute these political crimes is that they just continue.
People are absolutely on your side regarding the rigging of the election. But I think once you get into these assassinations, I’m sure this is not the first time you’ve heard someone telling you this, but you start falling into the realm of conspiracy theory and I wonder what you plan to do to prove these assassinations?
I don’t have to prove that, what I have to prove is the election stealing, which I can do. The reason it’s important to make people aware of the assassinations is that that is the cover-up. Another one of my witnesses, there was another attempt on her life. Now if I lose all my inside witnesses then I can’t prove my election case. And they know that, I know that, and one of the ways to protect my ability to prove the election stealing is to make the public aware of the assassination business so that perhaps there will be some protection. Having the FBI director as corrupt, he might as well be viewed as the conciliary of the global criminal cabal that’s behind all this stuff. So here’s the guy who’s supposed to be investigating the crime and he’s part of the crime, he’s an actor in the crime, he has a real conflict of interest. And the attorney general has a real conflict of interest, and the President has a gun to his head in effect. So, I don’t know what to say, you talk about assassinations you get labeled a conspiracy theorist, but if I don’t talk about assassinations then they just keep doing it, keep getting away with it, and the cover-up goes on. That is the key to the cover-up: no potential witnesses where they could testify.
What are your views on this Election Justice USA report that just came out, this 100-page report with all the evidence of election fraud?
It has some good stuff in there, but it doesn’t have the evidence that really takes the story to the truth. The truth is that there’s a new technology that’s been developed. Historically the election stealing has been in the range of 6 points. You look at the 2004 presidential election: the deviation from the exit-poll was 6 points, but now you get to the primary of 2016 and they’re in the range of 25-33 points. And how in the world can that happen? The explanation is that there’s a new technology that’s being applied where they’re not just switching votes but they’re destroying votes. They’re taking the identified Bernie voters and they’re destroying those votes. The people who are sophisticated and familiar with all this stuff, they’re wondering wether the 25-33%, is that the limit with this new technique or is it greater?
I’m 36 years old and I grew up watching these elections being rigged, and it was always pretty obvious and I always wanted to see more from people like you, so I gotta thank you, not just from myself but on behalf on the thousands of people who have been betrayed by the DNC and the BOEs.
What amazes me is that they’ve gone so overboard and have gotten so conspicuous. My wife and I went to one of these Bernie rallies, and this thing was only announced only two days before the rally, and there were 10 thousand people showing up. I don’t know if you’ve gone, but we’re standing around and talking to people there, and you have a sense of the passion and the moral force that is there. I don’t know this personally, but I was told that when Bernie did a rally at Rutgers University, I think it was, there was something like 5 – 10 thousand people there, but when Hillary did an event about a week later and she had Bon Jovi and there was only like a couple hundred people [laughs]. And when you have this kind of contrast, in terms of the contributions, in terms of people showing up at the rallies, are we supposed to believe that Bernie didn’t win at the ballot box?!
There’s also speculation now, after seeing Bernie the day of endorsing her through the last day of the DNC convention and seeing on the side of his face, it looks like he has a bruise and a cut. People are speculating that they even threatened his family and beat him up in order to endorse her. Is that something that you would subscribe to?
I believe it because I wrote a letter, I dunno if you’ve seen all my letters, but I wrote two letters to Attorney General Lynch, I wrote one letter to Bernie, and I wrote the letter to the President, and I wrote a letter to **INAUDIBLE** Anyway, in one of the letters I say that he had won and that there’s all this drumbeat for Hillary because of the reported victory of Hillary. Look at the Washington Post at all these stories about how Bernie was being ego-driven by not conceding and costing the tax-payers for $30,000 a day for secret service protection, and then when he dropped it they’re advertising that he no longer has secret service protection! And this is for a man that’s polling top in the country of any candidate to be the next president. It’s an invitation for a nutcase or any assassin to take out the guy that’s most likely to be the next president. And they probably had someone punch him probably threaten his granddaughter. This guy who I was telling you about, this CIA guy that was intimate with Beverly Campbell, he told her about how effective it was to persuade some peasant in South America they were trying to torture him, he said all they had to do was use liquid phosphorus on his daughters arm and he just burned her arm off, and then he had complete cooperation. These people are, ya know, this is big time stuff. These are people who don’t say, “torture doesn’t work,” — they know how, they’ve perfected the art of torture. Someone may resist the pain themselves, but you start talking about any harm coming to a grandchild or a child, you tear somebody apart. It’s beyond the ability of a normal human being to not concede whatever it is you’re trying to get. You punch him and you make some subtle threat against his life and the life of his grandchild, and I think that’s what they did.
Now, when you say “they”, do you mean the OpSec of Karl Rove?
Karl Rove was carrying George H. W. Bush’s bag when he was director of the CIA, and he became familiar during that tenure with the CIA operations around the world. He’s familiar with the election rigging, the assassinations and all that stuff, there was investigations of the Church Committee and the Pike Committee, that’s where this stuff came out. We were planning the assassination of Castro and others through disease. There’s a book called Drugs as Weapons Against Us, and it talks about how they use drugs to assassinate and neutralize people, mainly entertainers. Paul Robeson, they used LSD to basically destroy him. This was a black guy, he was an all American at Rutgers, football, goes to Columbia at law school, graduates, joins a firm and he meets with a client who says “I won’t have a black guy as my lawyer”, so he quits and goes into drama, singing, arts, and I think he knew like 20 languages, becomes an international figure, he’s highly revered and he has an incredible voice, and he’s in Moscow and he gets into a party where LSD is all over the place, laced, and they get him into a position where his mind has been affected by it, and they get him into a facility in London and do all kinds of things to him and they basically fried his brain.
Do you think this is similar to what could have happened to Joe Biden’s son?
No, I think they have technology for creating cancer pretty quickly, that’s what they did. Didn’t Ted Kennedy die from brain cancer as well? The best book to check out is JFK And The Unspeakable. The guy is absolutely phenomenal. The first reading, it’s like you’re reading the bible. This guy was like me, he was politically conscious at the time that this stuff was going on, that is the assassination of Kennedy, and he didn’t suspect for a minute the reality that’s going on that he discusses and reveals in the book, and when I finished it I go, “How in the world did I go to a liberal college where they’re supposed to be people who are the first tier of political knowledge and understanding of all this, and I went to Harvard Law School where the Archibald Cox was Kennedy’s labor lawyer, this is Kennedy’s school, but NO ONE talked about how there’s a conspiracy within the government, and rogue agencies and so on. That’s a powerful book that will change your view of the world, you’ll never let somebody cause you to dismiss something as a conspiracy theory. Ya know, we wouldn’t have organized crime statutes all over the place, we wouldn’t have conspiracy laws if there were not really conspiracies. The reason we have powerful anti-racketeering laws is because, when you organize on a massive scale to commit crime, and part of your crime your ownership of the law enforcement people, the judges and the politicians, you got a real problem. And now they own the press!
Yeah, they’re putting out polls that aren’t even including millenials, and these are official polls and we’re supposed to believe them? There’s obviously a lot of funny business going on and I think the problem is that people are just accepting it and not questioning what’s going on. People like you are doing a serious service to the public, so I gotta thank you again. Is there any timeline for when we can see your case actually come to fruition, or?
The plan is to file the case as soon as I can, and it’s going to be expidited because it’s an election case. Under the law, an election cases goes to the top of the docket. So where normally somebody files a lawsuit and they say yeah all these lawsuits it’s gonna take years, if you have an election case everything is compressed in time, everything happens very quickly. Think of it this way: if you know who the perpetrators are and you notice their deposition, what are they gonna say? If they take the 5th amendment, you’re halfway there because taking the 5th amendment it suggests that they are worried about being proven by their own mouths that they are involved in organized crime. They’re not entitled to secrecy, so this is a deposition, they get asked the question, they take the 5th amendment, and the people that are deathly afraid of being deposed are Karl Rove, Mikey Cunningham, Tom Donahue, Hillary Clinton.
Sounds like she was already interviewed by the FBI and that went in her favor, so, heh…
Well I guarantee you nobody asked her about this election. To his credit, George W. Bush allowed two special prosecutors to go after Karl Rove after he was out of the White House on the firing of U.S. attorneys for political reasons and on the exposing of Valerie Plame as a CIA person, but no one has ever gone after Karl Rove, other than me, for election stealing. And now I have, heh, such an abundance of facts.. The practical standpoint that things we can go over in a very short time simply by aggressive discovery, which we will do. And once it is clear that this election was rigged, then I believe that what’s gonna happen is the Democratic party, “Well we can’t proceed with the candidate that was designated on fraudulant votes, so we need to rethink this and regroup.”
So you’re saying right now there really is no timeline, you’re just working through it the best you can.
Exactly, well part of it is that things happen, for example, we have infiltration in our community. Through infiltration, we get our funds cut off. Without our funds, essential witnesses who are basically working on the basis of survival level of compensation, can’t be paid. So on the one hand we say, “well, gee, that inhibits our ability to proceed in a timely fashion”, but on the other hand what it does is show us who our enemies are. It’s additional evidence of who our conspirators are. So, everything is happening as it should and I believe we’re gonna prevail. And the evidence, in terms of the reality of what people have experienced as part of this Bernie campaign, if you give them the explanation, you give them the facts, it’ll be like the Soviet Union. When the Soviet Union fell, it wasn’t by violence, it wasn’t by a lawsuit, it was by a change of consciousness that brought people out that said, “We don’t want this military domination, we don’t want it!” And it changed overnight, and I think that’s what’s gonna happen in this election.
Have you reached out to Election Justice USA or any other lawyers bringing election fraud cases in the U.S.?
Yeah, I’ve been in conversation with some of the top lawyers around the country.
And have you received any good feedback, any good responses from any of them, or you still kinda working solo here?
No no, I have been working with top, and I mean VERY TOP lawyers in terms of what’s going on, and… It’s gonna happen.
Zachary Paul is an independent investigative journalist living in New York City.